Seven Kids: Speed cleaning-- with kids around?

“Cleaning your house while your kids are still growing is like shoveling the sidewalk before it stops snowing”

Phyllis Diller quotes (American comedienne and actress, born 1917)


The question has been brought up in my mom's group-- "You can do anything for 15 minutes" is crazy because when you are doing anything with kids around-- you don't have 15 minutes! Not even 5 minutes, before the kids are getting into something.  I've had days where they go behind me messing up everything I just cleaned- or all I can do is run behind them putting out their fires.

There are a few things I've learned while observing and working with my 7 children... and I can relate it to my college education in child development.
1-2's.  You can give them a damp washcloth and just let them wipe anything that is near you as you clean.  They just want to BE with you, and they love to imitate you. They'll love a little whisk broom and dust pan- they are uncoordinated so they'll be tossing debris around more than cleaning it, but they will be happy and near you. Just while I was helping my girls fold laundry, my 13 mo old niece came running to unfold the towels as fast I could fold them. I took the towel and placed it firmly on the ground in front of her, kept eye contact, and emphasized putting the towel THERE, and then I handed her a face cloth. She was perfectly happy with the face cloth and didn't touch the towels again.
2-3's. These guys love to do the spray bottle (water only, they'll try to drink from it) and they're getting a bit more coordinated with sweeping. It still looks like they're making more mess than good, though. Their skills can be put to spraying off the dining chairs and the underside of the table (you know they are splattered with concrete splotches of past meals). They love to be given independent tasks a little farther away from mama- something they can do "all by myself."  And when your visitors arrive, be sure to praise him, "Little Joe washed the chairs and table for you all by himself to get ready for your visit!"
3-4's. Are learning shapes and love to fold the wash/face cloths and napkins. It can sometimes turn into origami (smile). They are getting pretty good with the dustpan and can actually follow you around while you sweep, picking up your piles. Love to sort silverware- and will put away all their plastic dishes if you can find a low cabinet or drawer to keep them in. Love to wash mirrors and windows and some are past trying to drink from the spray bottle, so you may want to put a tiny bit of vinegar into the water as the cleaning solution (this should also convince the last stubborn drinker to cease and desist). Developmentally these kids are starting to figure out family roles- roleplaying is huge in this age group. They are happy when they know they have a useful place in the family, and they are doing jobs that lighten your load.
5-7's. Can expand the damp washcloth bit into dusting furniture. They can now put away almost all of the clean dishes (mine would leave dishes that needed to go in a high cabinet on the countertop and ask for help from "long arms"). They can learn to fold all their own clothing and put it away-- a trick we use is those 99c clear plastic shoeboxes (no lids) which are just about the right size for clothing up to about size 8 to 10. My littles each have 6 boxes- one each for socks/tights, unders, shirts, pants, sweaters/sweatshirts, and cute outfits that should stay together. You know, "go get a cute outfit on, we're going out."  This age is very into sorting and ordering, and autonomy.  This helps them keep order and autonomy in the clothing, because the boxes keep everything very neat. They can carry the empty box down to where the clothes are folded, and put their shirts in the shirt box, then carry the shirt box and put it away-- they fit neatly into drawers, usually, or into a shoe organizer hanging in the closet. Likes chore charts with pictures and stickers, it fits the sorting and ordering in their heads.
7-9's. These guys are into Law & Order.  They want to make sure chores are fair. They don't want any "Baby Jobs" but will supervise younger sibs and teach them how to do Baby Jobs.  These guys like Chore Cards that can be dealt out to all sibs evenly, or posted rotating Chore Wheels or Schedules. Seem to be perfectly happy doing their share, as long as everyone else is sharing equally. They want to keep everything and have a hard time keeping their room clean because every little bit of trash is important to them-- it's important to instill some personal boundaries so they don't end up on HGTV's Clean Sweep.  This can be done by giving them a Clean Sweep- type clean up system for their room: 3 cans- trash, giveaway/garage sale, and absolutely must keep.  I let mine have a large Rubbermaid storage box for keeping treasures-in the garage loft.
9-12's.  These kids can clean the bathroom, do their own laundry, do the dishes, make simple meals using boxes with instructions or simple recipes. They can earn a little money doing odd jobs for neighbors and like to use that money to provide gifts for loved ones.  They can be bossy and want to hen-peck younger siblings, while being very nurturing towards them too. This is especially true for readers-- the books for this age group often feature kids who are keeping house on their own. Laura and Mary who keep house when Ma & Pa are stuck in town during a snowstorm; Farmer Boy and his siblings who are left home alone for 5 days; Boxcar Children...some bigger kids will be happy mowing and weed-eating, but many will think they are too small or be happier indoors doing housework.
12-15's. Again, think to the heroes of their books-- these kids are out doing adventures, no longer keeping house for young waifs.  The heroes of the Narnia series, for instance, or Series of Unfortunate Events.  They *can* keep house- they know how to do it and are capable. They just don't want to, their minds are on adventures. They are old enough to have hobbies and interests and want money - so it's easy to motivate them by offering paying work.   It's important, though, to maintain the expectation that a family is a bit like communal living and everyone has a part to play to keep it running happily.
16+. This group are fairly willing workers and do a very thorough job. They have their minds set on being quite grown up and aiming to move out-- and are ready to prove it to you. So they will take on most household tasks with excellence. They can be capable foremen, leading younger siblings. And frankly, in my opinion, kids this age should have paying work outside the home and saving most of their earnings. However, at this age, they should be taking on more financial responsibility too-- my 16yo son paid for his football gear (I paid the registration fees). He does not have a driver's license but he paid the fee for the learner permit.  He pays me (for time as well as gas) for my driving services over 200 miles a month. He pays for the trendy clothes he "has to have" above the family clothing allowance set for him. And he pays for his own evenings out-- these responsibilities cause him to lean towards being a careful consumer, too- bonus.

Homeschooling is your JOB. Keep it, work it, 9 to 3. Hold it sacred.

Make your kids do their assignments, Teach them their lessons, Don't do anything else during school time, Don't even answer your phone.

Maybe that works for your homeschool, but that doesn't mean it has to be that way for every homeschool.

I didn't "sign up" for homeschooling to teach my child, to agree to give them an equivalent or superior education. And I don't think "teach them their lessons" is very high on my "to do" list at all, and won't really ever be.

My homeschool looks different from yours, but that doesn't make it wrong.

To me, the extra activities ARE the important lessons for my children. What they get from books is used for things they can't possibly get in real life and/or to reinforce what they've seen and experienced.


Do the reading, writing and math lessons daily. There is no reason to skip it.

One reason-- I don't believe in it.

I've only done reading, math and writing every day for two children, my oldest two, and if I'm honest I'll tell you it was never consistently everyday for them for long, because something ALWAYS came up to interrupt it. THEN I'd feel like a failure because "I couldn't get it all done."

Amazingly since I stopped trying to live up to the outside "expert" expectations, my kids learn better, learn more, and learn faster and there is no pressure on me.

If "school at home" works for you, more power to you.

But it doesn't mean it's the right way. Or the only way. And there are plenty of moms out there who will feel despondent from being held to those standards.

If I worked full time during the day and came home at 4 and had to do all the housework, cleaning, shopping, kids' appointments, and extracurriculars between 4 and 8 every evening, I'd be absolutely frantic.

I homeschool because there is no way I'm holding myself to THAT standard. It's not the only way and it's wrong to tell moms it is.

Almost no child "needs" sit down lessons, academic stuff, before age 10 or 12. What they *need* is quality books and materials to explore, a parent who reads aloud to them from a wide range of fiction, non-fiction, biography. They need time to be kids. They need plenty of fresh air and sunshine, good food that they prepare themselves, and housework to learn to work as a team to better their environment for others' benefit, not just their own.

And yes, it's a taste of heaven. Watching the Creative aspect of God come out in your children. Watching the Dominion aspect of God come out in your children. Watching them explore and conquer the world around them. At their pace. It's a taste of heaven. They bring me coffee now, they bring me books. They come and ask if they can clean the bathroom. They make posters and charts on things they study. They teach each other-- oh how sweet it is to see them work together!

I believe journals are important, too. So I bought one and wrote to my DD and she wrote me back. Then I wrote her again and she wrote me back. Now she writes to cousins, grandparents, and they write back. My kids also "journal" on the forums  and blogs as I do.

There is more than one way to express oneself. Some moms need to be creative and find what draws personal expression out of their children naturally rather than making an issue out of something that simply doesn't need to be an issue. Pencils on white paper are not the only way. It's not worth fighting with a child to put them in a mold... rather, you want to keep your child malleable so that he keeps making room for you.

My teen also drives me crazy when he wants to do things his own way -- I also considered military school at one point when he was very openly and angrily rebellious. I would have loved to have dumped my problem on them and given myself a breather. But instead, we're still together daily. We talk about things. Deep things. Crazy things. Funny is, he's not rebellious anymore. He's still wanting to be his own kid, but he's not rebelling angrily against me anymore. He's working with me, transferring his childishness to manishness. He doesn't get all the work done that I assign him, but that's his problem. He'll be out when he's 18 in a couple years and he'll suffer the consequences or he'll learn. Sink or swim.

The fallacy is that kids must be taught to a Scope & Sequence.  Their education is their job. But the truth is that which is learned by someone who is engaged and interested is retained. That which is forced by rote or Scope & Sequence is mostly lost.

Learning should not be Work. It should be a natural extension of life. Not something that is turned off outside of 9 to 5. A learner will be learning all the time. It won't require textbooks, schedules, bells or whistles.

My kids are rarely bored. In fact I blogged last Friday about what they do when there is nothing. at. all. scheduled. Now they are outside my window giving each other spelling tests. It's their latest game. And they are all learning spelling rules. 10yo, 8yo, 5yo, 3yo.

If it comes up because the child NEEDS to know a particular concept like square roots to accomplish something he wants to do, or if it comes up in a game sometime and they want to win..... then they'll grasp an understanding in a fraction of the time with much less effort, and they'll remember it better for longer.

Many frustrations and difficulties between child and parent comes from parents pushing a concept on a child and he's just. not. getting it.  So the parent pushes harder. I didn't get Algebra when I took it at age 14. I didn't get it when I took it at community college the first time at age 18. But 9 months later when I took it again at age 19, and with a different teacher and tutor, one day it just went off for me like a lightbulb and I "got" it.... and got an A. There really ARE things for which some will never "get" it... I never "got" some things at all. And others just need to try it during a "sweet spot."

Putting something away now and bringing it back out in 6 months is a perfectly valid way to approach "hard" things.

Moms who are still learning about this homeschooling thing, as I was 10 years ago, deserve to hear all the sides to a story. They need to know that the standards certain homeschoolers are placing them under are arbitrary and according to one opinion, and that there are other opinions out there. Whose kids are turning out just as fine.

 No matter what YOU do for or with your children, they will make their own choices and mistakes. You cannot control them forever. Some people who raised their children doing all the "right things" according to the stricter sense have rebels in adulthood who "break their hearts." I also know children were raised very much in "freedom" that would horrify you who are quite focused and successful individuals. Of course I also know kids raised poorly who are thugs and kids who were raised like the Von Trapps who are now little Marias. The point is, KIDS ARE THEIR OWN PEOPLE AND YOU CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT BUT HOPE, PRAY, and actually GET TO KNOW THAT LITTLE PERSON AND ADDRESS HIS HEART.

Romans 13, The Message

 1-3Be a good citizen. All governments are under God. Insofar as there is peace and order, it's God's order. So live responsibly as a citizen. If you're irresponsible to the state, then you're irresponsible with God, and God will hold you responsible. Duly constituted authorities are only a threat if you're trying to get by with something. Decent citizens should have nothing to fear.

 3-5Do you want to be on good terms with the government? Be a responsible citizen and you'll get on just fine, the government working to your advantage. But if you're breaking the rules right and left, watch out. The police aren't there just to be admired in their uniforms. God also has an interest in keeping order, and he uses them to do it. That's why you must live responsibly—not just to avoid punishment but also because it's the right way to live.
 6-7That's also why you pay taxes—so that an orderly way of life can be maintained. Fulfill your obligations as a citizen. Pay your taxes, pay your bills, respect your leaders.
 8-10Don't run up debts, except for the huge debt of love you owe each other. When you love others, you complete what the law has been after all along. The law code—don't sleep with another person's spouse, don't take someone's life, don't take what isn't yours, don't always be wanting what you don't have, and any other "don't" you can think of—finally adds up to this: Love other people as well as you do yourself. You can't go wrong when you love others. When you add up everything in the law code, the sum total is love.
 11-14But make sure that you don't get so absorbed and exhausted in taking care of all your day-by-day obligations that you lose track of the time and doze off, oblivious to God. The night is about over, dawn is about to break. Be up and awake to what God is doing! God is putting the finishing touches on the salvation work he began when we first believed. We can't afford to waste a minute, must not squander these precious daylight hours in frivolity and indulgence, in sleeping around and dissipation, in bickering and grabbing everything in sight. Get out of bed and get dressed! Don't loiter and linger, waiting until the very last minute. Dress yourselves in Christ, and be up and about!  (Romans 13, The Message)

What should we do on Friday mornings?

I would like to make an argument for just doing nothing.

Especially since you have something else planned every other morning of the week.

Just do nothing.

Maybe my kids have too much of nothing.  They've never had daycare, or mother's day out, or even play groups to go to regularly.  Occasionally I've committed to once-a-week storytime at the library but that has been perhaps 20 months worth out of the last 16 years.

This morning, this wonderful blessed Friday morning, was much like every other Friday morning.  I slept in until 9:30. I was laying in bed awake since about 7:30 but was snoozing, then listening, then snoozing, etc.  Listening to the sounds my kids made.

Well, the oldest don't make sounds. They're reading.  My 12yo is still snuggled in bed reading; my 16yo got up and got on computer which he does every day. He checks his assignment lists and starts working, checking email and facebook as he goes.

But the 10yo, 8yo, 5yo and 3yo have been playing in the school room next to my door and the porch and yard outside my window.  They have played with chickens and got chicken snot on their face when they tried kissing them. They decided to look at chicken snot under the microscope so came inside and smeared a slide across their cheek. (I know it's not chicken snot, but I haven't had enough coffee to figure out what they are really talking about.)  They collected beetles and bugs and are looking at them under the magnifying glass.  They are making a chart comparing the characteristics of each of the different beetles-- this one can fly, that one has horn things on its exoskeleton, this one has no exoskeleton.

Sometimes you just have to let them be "bored" and not. schedule. anything.

A mom with a 2yo and a newborn asked this question which prompted this post-- he has daycare or playgroups every other day and she's scared to death to have him home with nothing scheduled on Fridays.  So I answer again.  Just do nothing. Don't offer any excitement and then sit and watch what he does.  Let him play, explore. Let him just have a quiet day at home with nothing to do. 

You know WE love that right?

Yes I know it was different when Jacob was 2 and Ed was a newborn.  Back then I honest to goodness put a waterbottle and a bowl of dry cereal out, and the child could honestly get himself up, pop a VHS in the machine and eat cereal as he watched a 2 hour movie and I could wake up slowly.  Once when I was newly pregnant with John and Ed was snuggled in his crib near my bed, Jacob came tearing into my room, "ACCK I ate the RED SUGAR" and puked red all over my floor. It was cayenne pepper. Hahaha.... So please, do childproof or keep him contained to only his one, childproofed room.  :O

Think Hybrid?

What an excellent name for a blog post, it got my attention. And it is something that has been on my mind, lately.  I was raised in a church atmosphere of "We're the only ones who really have this right. You depend on us for your spiritual needs, and you'll be ok."  Visiting other churches occasionally at a friend's invitation was seen as suspect-- and you certainly could not have gotten your spiritual fill there. Worse, you probably were given wrong doctrine and will require "damage control."  Add to this the rule-- spoken or unspoken-- that your regular attendance was required or you'd miss the best seats on the train to heaven.

The truth about church, Dustin Neeley points out, is "many movements and denominations market their brands as 'the way' to get the job done. However, because of our fallen world, none of us are entirely right about anything."  He encourages, "'Thinking hybrid' is about drawing from a number of wells instead of just one. In doing so, we are able to maximize the strengths of our heroes while minimizing their weaknesses, instead of reproducing them in our own ministries."

Be warned, however.  When you step out of your doctrinal comfort zone and consider other views, sometimes you are stretched. You see things in a new way.  You actually start exercising your discernment, and you find yourself testing the things you've always believed against what Jesus actually said.  Dustin says during this process you should do three things:
  1. Read and listen widely: draw what you can and leave the rest.
  2. Befriend someone from another "tribe" and see what God may say to you through him.
  3. Be humble: is your insecurity so strong that you can't question what you've always believed?

Art in Books


For Art Every Day Month, I introduced some books to my kids.
We browsed the books, talking about the pictures. I read some to the kids, let them read the rest. We also have this old board game from my childhood, Masterpiece. This game taught me to recognize many pieces by sight.

Iron Man 6 man football tournament

Forgive me for not blogging the rest of last week. I was running teens around.  I put about 500 miles on the vehicles, and never was more than 60 miles from home.

And the only camera I had with me, again, is my iPhone.

It was mostly really fun, though exhausting. I had 2 boys stay with us Thursday night. This was fun:

Remember when I used to have a line of diapers? Sigh.

Art in Hand



November 3... Art Everyday is knitting. How FUN!  The 5yo is learning, the 8yo is grumpy because he's had to pull out his knitting 5 times.

My favorite Christmas Music


They were a YouTube viral sensation 2 years ago, and last year their work was released on this c.d. We love it. And not to disappoint, they have another release today:





A Creating Image


A friend of mine on the Sonlight forums mentioned Art Every Day Month.

It seemed like fun, so we're trying it. I know you're on the edge of your seats, so I'll try to update regularly on our progress.

Today, my little artists made their daily foray into the manila paper and crayons, markers and colored pencils. By the end of the month my hope would be that we see more diversity in their creativity.

I picked up books from the public library to explore, Linnea in Monet's Garden, What makes a Rembrandt a Rembrandt, and more. I am looking for field trips as well- this won't be hard, we've been really lacking in this type of field trip. It was overwhelming to even think of taking a bunch of little kids to art museums. But now they are all getting bigger.....


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